Hot! How to Fix Fallout 3 Lock ups and Crashes

Highly anticipated and quite a joy to play, Fallout 3 comes with its fair share of problems for both Xbox 360 and PC versions of the game, similar to those Oblivion had when it was launched (but somewhat lighter). In other words, Fallout 3 simply locks up from time to time, but Bethesda luckily has the answers.

So, if you have Fallout 3 for Xbox 360 and it locks up, according to Bethesda Softworks VP of Marketing and Fallout 3 product manager Pete Hines, all you have to do is clean your console’s cache and the game will no longer crash. In order to do that, follow the next steps:

-Go to the Dashboard and select System Blade -> Memory.
-Highlight HD, then press Y.
- Follow on screen instructions or press: X, X, Left Bumper, Right Bumper, X, X. Confirm the System Maintenance and enjoy your game!

For the PC version of the game, the problems seem to be bigger as the game crashes when it starts, and even though there are no official answers for the problem at the moment, it appears that the problems are caused by the soundcards (the 3D surround options in Fallout 3, to be more specific).

So, if you have Asus Xsonar, Creative or Realtek sound cards and your Fallout 3 game crashes when you start a new game, you can try the following trick reported by Bethesda forum user zsmono:

Just turn off the GX mode if you have a Xonar card. “For the others. This DS3D GX thing is part of Xonar’s drivers which is responsible for restoring EAX and multichannel sorround sound under Vista. Similar to Creative’s Alchemy or Realtek’s 3D SoundBack. Try to disable them, or change the speaker config to stereo.”

Hopefully that helps. We’ll keep you updated on official information regarding the Fallout 3 lock ups and crashes and solutions for the situations.

194 Comments

  1. Tried the clear cash fix for Fallout 3 on the xbox, now it wont even read the disc, great……………………..

    • Seems that when you clear your cache it drops all the Expansions off of your HD so try reloading them. I just did this and noticed It didn’t show any of my downloads at the main menu. Watching them install now. Hope it works because I’m a quarter of exp. away from lvl. 30 n I’ma gonna be pissed if it doesn’t work.

  2. Disable your pagefile for all hard drives to 0Mb.

    Play the game. Since I put this to one forum yesterday, I’ve gotten 4 inforum mails from happy players, no more crashes and the game works smoothly, as it should.

    no need for bethesdas patch, I don’t have it and lol… I don’t know if I want to install it because if somethign works, fixing it might do more bad then good lol…

    oh yeah and pls, submit if it worked on Vista, because I’m using XP and not 100% sure about vista random crashes.

    -Jay604

  3. someone said that disabling virtual memory in Vista is not an option. I can’t comment on that because I’ve always used XP, so if you try it on Vista, do it with your own risk.

    -Jay604

  4. Disabling virtual memory don’t fix the crashes under XP

  5. Although I still had no major problems playing Fallout 3 (the game crashed just once when it was an over-crowded screen) I kept looking into this matter.

    So I have also found out that for those using Windows XP toying a bit with the visual settings helped a lot and some reported that the game no longer crashed. They have achieved this by running the on 1024×768 with antialiasing and anisotropic filtering off and the view distance (Advanced tab) all set one level lower than the original setting.

    In theory, there’s nothing that should go wrong if you alter these settings (except for a slight decrease of the visual quality). But since there are several voices claiming that this did the trick, why not try it too if nothing else solved your problem?

    • Calin,
      This worked for me! Also, I changed my settings on the auto save feature and turned them all off. I have to remember to save but that’s no big deal. I am playing this on a dell studio laptop pc with windows vista. I have put in over fifty hours on the game since making the making those changes and it hasn’t crashed once!

  6. fallout: Disabling virtual memory don’t fix the crashes under XP

    Don’t comment on something like it’s gods word if you don’t know better. Believe me or not, for some players it does.

    I know disabling the pagefile sounds ridiculous at first, that’s the first reason why I wrote it on forums and asked for feedback to confirm it before posting to here and many other places.

    I had WinXP Pro with SP2 installed and running on my computer when Fallout3 was released, for the third year running almost 24/7 with no problems on any programs or games I had. (had about 15 games installed.)

    When I installed Fallout3, I played it 5hours in a row before the first crash. After that they became more and more often, complitely random, to the point where sometimes savegame didn’t load or I could only play about anywhere between 10sec and 2minutes. So in another words, game became impossible to play.

    So I decided to do a fresh install of OS and format the drive.

    My current 6day old installation is now Windows XP Professional N, with SP3. Downloaded all the updates to windows, soundcard drivers and motherboard drivers and software. Also found out that there was newer version to my graphics card BIOS, so I flashed it too. I Also disabled ffdshow in both, audio and video preferencecs to not to be used with Fallout3.exe.

    After that the game worked smoothly and without any crashes.

    I reported thiese changes I made to a forum where lots of people were having crashes and other problems with the game.

    When typing in my hardware specs, I checked the CPU clock speed while typing to forum and found out that I had 0Mb pagefile, and begin to wonder if that was the reason for Fallout running so smoothly, as crazy it sounded. So I posted that too on the forum.

    In one day I got reports from 5 greatful players who were constantly having RANDOM crashes before and disabling the pagefile had done the trick for them. Four of them hadn’t have any crashes after that, and one player reported that this “fix” had made the game playable, but he still did experience crashes, but not nearly as frequent as before.

    Now, I’ve played the game for maybe over 30 hours after the disabling of pagefile and haven’t experienced a single crash. I don’t have the Bethesdas patch installed (why fix it if it works) and I’m running it on full resolution (1680 x 1050) with medium (some settings increased, like NPC fade) and with good framerate. Actually better framerate then when I started it first time on my old XP SP2 setup.

    Pretty good, considering that my processor is a very weak link in the hardware chain. Here’s what I’m running, and my hardware:

    MSI Motherboard with integrated 5.1 sound
    MSI GeForce 7950GT 512Mb DDR3
    AMD Sempron 2800+ (1,6Ghz)
    1,5Gb RAM
    Running Windows XP Professional N, Version 2002 with SP3.

    So, if there are readers out there who are using XP, and having RANDOM crashes on the game, or having the game slow down the longer you play, this fix is DEFINITELY worth trying. More people have reported to me that disabling pagefile on all drives took away their CTD crashes like it was magic.

    It’s not eaven complicated, only few mousebutton press and you know if the fix if any good for you. If not, just turn the pagefile(s) back on.

    Hope there are some readers here who can benefit form this information. If you’re one of the players who has got rid of the crashes by disabling pagefile in XP, please report it to the forums. Thanks for reading and happy gaming.

    -Jay604

  7. this is exactly what ive experienced with my gameplay
    first 5 hours GREAT, but it just got steadily wose to the
    point were i can only play for about 2 mineuts at a time.
    my specs are
    > Vista 64 bit
    >Nvidea8600gt
    >2000mg. ramm
    >1.6 dual core
    >Dell vosto 1700

    I keep hearing about diabling pagefile, but I
    dont know how to do it. Someone told me to
    simply go to all progrmas and find it there,
    but my installation didnt place it in all progrmas
    (only god knows why) and i cannot find it under
    *my computor_all programs* either so help me
    out here :) thanx for your long explanation btw

  8. I have an xbox360 and this made the problems I was having stop but there is one thing I don’t understand it says ” Follow on screen instructions or press: X, X, Left Bumper, Right Bumper, X, X.” what does it mean follow the instructions if you press y it says format or rename and that doesn’t wasn’t it and I press a and there are eight different things so how are you suposed to clean the cache without putting in the code isn’t there a normal way to clean it?

  9. Hello! Here is, more detailed, what you have to do:

    1. Go to the System section of the Xbox 360 Dashboard and select Memory, go to Hard Drive, then press Y and you’ll see the device options screen.

    2. There, on your controller, press the X button, press the X button again, press the left bumper, press the right bumper, press the X button, and then press the X button again.

    3. If you follow these instructions exactly, you will be prompted to confirm system maintenance – and that’s what you want to do. Select Yes by pressing A.

    That’s it. Hope it was helpful. But let me know if you still have trouble doing it.

  10. if you’re running WinXP, you can disable your pagefile(s) by doing the following:

    Rightclick your “my computer” on your desktop, and click “Properties”. From there, click the “Advanced” -tab. There you should see three “settings” buttons for 1. Performance 2. User Profiles 3. Startup and recovery.

    Under “performance”, it should say “visual effects, processor scheduling, memory usage and virtual memory”. Click the Settings button on the right where it says that.

    Now you have three tabs again. Click “Advanced”.

    There you should find “Virtual Memory” and next to that a button that says “Change”. Click that.

    Now check all your hard disks, and choose the “no paging file” -option to all drives. Click ‘OK’ and you’re set.

    Launch fallout from the installation folder using FalloutLauncher.exe

    why this? Well, doesn’t do any difference to me where I start the game but some players have reported that if they use the file itself to launch fallout, instead of the shortcut from desktop, they’ve gotten better results, don’t know why.

    Hope this does the trick to you.

  11. For gamers running Vista, I don’t recommend trying to disable the pagefile. I don’t know exactly how it works on Vista, but I’ve read people saying on forums that you can’t disable pagefile on Vista because the system can’t run without it or something.

    I don’t want to comment more on Vista because I’m not familiar with it. I’ve only used XP so far because it gives better performance.

    Good rule of thumb for me has been not the latest OS, but the OS that’s came before that with all possible updates.. like WinXP with ServicePack3. Maybe in 1-2 years or so, I could imagine installing Vista.. (I know I’m gonna angry many happy Vista users..heheh)

    New operating systems are a bit like brand new first year release models of a new car. They always have some flaws and maybe some unreliable parts that engineers have missed while developing the car. Rather buy the same model next year, or year after that, and the manufacturers have usually found and fixed the flaws by then.

    • You can actually set Windows Vista and 7 into a srt of windows 98 mode. I don’t know if it would help at all… but hey. I’m going to try it.

  12. To Trevor Cook:

    Have you considered installing a second OS to your computer for fallout and maybe other programs that you might want to run under XP?

    If you got maybe two hard disks, or two partitions, install or have some of your computer wiz friends to install XP to another partition or drive and to make you a startup menu to run either XP or Vista..

    Lots of work, but might solve the problem.

    -Jay

  13. thanx for all your help guys
    ill try the page file thing, as for partitioning it,
    if i were to get xp i would want vista completely gone
    but mabey if all else fails..
    thanx again

  14. well…. didnt exactly work
    did for awhile then got a low memory error,
    i set it back to the old settings , back to same
    game crashes :( could it be a problem with
    graphics card? every time its becouse of
    display driver stopped working, mabey if i get
    newest driver? but doesnt vista automaticly
    update there drivers?

  15. the game is badly produced, all this tinkering does not fix anything if the product was not ready for production, which it clearly is not. It crashes on two different platforms in similar places, to me that is bad programming.

  16. yeah agree with Zer0 here.. and that pagefile fix does not fix any crashes that are specific place or person that you talk.

    About the drivers, it might help. Also check from your motherboard and graphics card manufacturer if they happen to have a newer BIOS for your hardware. And ofcourse all other drivers too (graphics card, all motherboard drivers) That might help.

    -Jay

  17. Hello. I’m playing Fallout 3 on Xbox 360. It crashes every minute or so. Literally. I need to know how to avoid these god-damned lockups. When I follow the instructions on the top of this site, well…I’m lost. I’m at some renaming screen to rename “Hard Drive” but I’m pretty much lost there. Any specific information would be of use. Thanks!

  18. @Greg: Please read comment number 9, hopefully that will help.

  19. Yes, I read your previous comment, but I still do not get the part after you press “Y” and end up at the “Rename” or “Format” place. What do I do after that? I press your button combo at that very screen, but nothing happens. I try it when I rename “Hard Drive,” but all that did was make it, “Hard D.” Help!

  20. And one final thing – the “bumpers” you refer to are the directional pads on the buttons, I assume?

  21. Oops, on the controller ***

  22. Greg, that must be the problem: I’m not talking about the directional pads.

    By “bumpers” I mean the buttons situated at the back of the controller (where you plug the cord), right above the triggers (the ones you activate with your index fingers). So the bumpers would be the two horizontal buttons at the back (or side, however you choose to call it), situated above the two vertical ones.

    Good luck and please let us know if you managed to clean the cache!

  23. I have been having the same crashes some times I can go for hours with no issues and then I can have it every 5 minutes. I emailed Bethesda Softworks and they asked for my DXDIAG print out. They then emailed me back and said that my system does not meet the minimum CPU specs of 2.4 ghz. I have an X2 duel core at 2.2 ghz or 4.4 ghz of processing power. The game runs great with excellent frame rates. I beleive they have a coding issues and are overloaded trying to support three platforms.

  24. Well, I performed the directed action towards my problem, yet I’m still getting lock-ups. I can’t even get past the G.O.A.T. exam without it freezing up. Occaisonaly when it freezes, it’ll say, “unreadable disk-clean with a soft, clean, cloth, then restart the Xbox.”

    Well, it’s a brand-new game. Just bought it and beat it at my house, but I packed it up and went to my friend’s house. I seriously doubt it’s the disk. It’s OCCASIONALY locked up BEFORE, but not nearly like this. And it always seems to lock up at certain occasions, like the fight in the hallway at vault 101, or the G.O.A.T exam…tried loading all my saved games, but most of ‘em give me the nice little “unable to read disk” error. The Xbox is pretty new as well – only a year or so. And I haven’t been roughing around with it. Even more bitterly annoying, It’ll play games like GoW just fine, and those disks are much older. If anyone can find a way to help, that would really be appreciated. Fallout 3 is one of my favorite games.

  25. And to clear things up completely, I’ve tried disk-skip fixer on the disk as well. Nothing. Cleaned it off with a special CD-cloth. Nothing… I suspect it may be the optical drive in my Xbox. If that’s the case…

  26. u say urs crashes at certain time?
    well mine just crashes at randome intervals,
    itl feeze, the screen will turn all funky colors,
    then bam gone.

    i tried to install new drivers but vista kept complaining
    for example, when i attempted to install the new one for
    vista 32-bit, it said *warning, this driver was only meant for
    32-bit operating systems* windows has determined u dont have 32 bit*
    but i dOO have 32 bit. When i install 64 bit just to make shure, it
    gives me the same crap. So i think my computor is confused to
    what it is, or vista is just being a douch…..
    idk how these crashing problems will EveR get fixed,
    and am losing hope :( is there any new information out there
    that someone has that might adrees these issues?

  27. mine crashes every few hours but i have a pc and 64 bit vista with all the trimings 8600 gt xfx750a mother board and athlone 5000+ prosesser

  28. If you know that you’re using 32bit, and the computer nags that it’s not 32bit, does it give any “continue anyway” -screen or anything like that?

    The more I talk at forums about these problems the more I’m starting to get pissed to micro$oft, serucom protections, bad product testing and all that crap that gamers are forced to put up with.

    Until now, I’ve lived in the thought that console games work always without any hastle, (I got old PS2, but don’t know much about xbox360 or PS3).

    It especially pisses me off because the only way to fight this would be for all the players who got problems to go to the shops and return the game and demand a refund of the purchace. But still, there’s not enough players who will do that, eaven if the game is almost unplayable, if there’s hope that the game will run with some crashes or that it will run in about 6 months when they bother to patch all the bugs.

    Allthough the game works 100% ok for me now, I wouldn’t have mind if they’ve released it maybe a month later, as a proper release, not using paying customers as beta testers.

    And after all this crap, they still wonder why so many download their games illegally from the internet. Of course after buying a few games like this, that won’t work, people will want to test the game first without paying for it.

    I don’t think I’m gonna buy any “Windows Live” games from now on, or atleast before reading the forums first.

  29. yeah i agree they needed more time to develope this game,
    i would have been pretty happy if they waited a month and fixed all the bugs in it. mine is playble *mostly* but with at least 5 or 6
    un-provoked crahses a day, its enough to irrate the hell oua me.
    you do have to give the developers alota credit though, there under alot
    of stress im shure, and with all the great games coming out this year
    its no wonder they pushed it to the shelves, this would be the best game eVer, if it wasnt for the instabilite issues.

    i think most of the issues , rest on the shoulders of *microsoft* and not *bethesda*, has there ben any news on how the ps3 version is coming along? or is it still not out for ps3?

  30. I have Fallout 3 on XBox360. Having just set the Megatron bomb to explode I’m now heading out to the tower, but I can’t, because every time I leave Megatron the game hangs! I tried clearing the cache (directions seemed very straight forward to me!) but it has no effect whatsoever. This leaves the game totally unplayable.

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can someone help!?!

  31. I have the ~exact~ same probem, Andy. The best you could do is try to perform system maintanence. That doesn’t work, you’re screwed, like me. Here’s how to do it.

    Before you begin playing, you should be at the dashboard of the Xbox 360. Read the directions as said on the posts above, and you might fix the problem. However, I have reason to believe it’s the optical drive in the Xbox. Faulty hardware is probably your problem ~ the game is a piece of #%&@ that wasn’t ready for mass production, in my opinion. One of the best games I’ve had the pleasure of playing.

  32. I tend to ramble a lot. The GAME is the piece of #%&@ that wasn’t ready for mass production. My Xbox plays other games fine, and my other games are a helluvalot more scratched than Fallout 3 is. So it’s common sense you may need to just buy another copy of Fallout 3 and hope it ain’t the beta crap they put on the shelves.

  33. if the game crashes when you have decided to blow up megaton, I’ve heard suggestions that it might be something to do with your charater gaining negative karma, and when you get from neutral to evil, something in programming gets fu**ed up and vòila, CRASH!

    yeah too bad for me too, I PRE-ORDERED the game so I must have the buggiest version possible… would have been better to wait for a proper version.

    Illegal software groups mark their releases “proper” if previous releases have had something wrong, maybe bethesda could learn something from this hehee

  34. does anyone know where the screenshots get saved? for the pc of course. Cant seem to locate them :/

    also, when i installed fallout 3, it didnt get added to my all programs menu. this is quite puzzling, as ive never had a game not do this before. soo anything you guys know will help :)

    thanx

  35. If you want to disable the pagefile on Vista here’s how you do it.
    Go to my computer:
    Right click your hard drive windows is installed on:
    Select properties(this opens the system screen):
    Select advanced settings on the left hand side of the window(this opens the system properties window):
    Select the advanced tab at the top middle:
    Click settings button under performance box(this opens performance options menu):
    Select the advanced tab at the top middle:
    Click the change button under the virtual memory box(this opens the virtual memory window):
    Uncheck the automatically manage paging file size for drives:
    Make sure the correct hard drive (whatever windows is installed on) is selected in the box and select the “no paging file” radio button and click the set button:
    NOTE: If you do not click the set button it will not work:
    You will have to restart your computer for this setting to take effect;

    NOTE: If you don’t have a large amount of RAM at least 2 Gigs I wouldn’t recommend doing this as it will drastically slow your machine down. 2 or more gigs and you’re probably fine.

    Do this at your own risk. Happy gaming;)

  36. ok… this is getting to be ridiculous..

    I haven’t played Fallout3 in a few days because I’ve been busy and WoW – WotLK just came out, I’ve played it a bit for my spare time. Tonight, however, I decided to continue my Fallout -game.

    I got crashes. AGAIN. I haven’t done anything so special to my computer that it should affect fallout. Only installed old paint shop pro 7, new version of firefox, updated windows and the usual stuff.

    So, having crashes again, I went to bethesdas web page and downloaded the patch. Thought that maybe it’ll fix it.

    But it’s kinda hard because I can’t install the patch!

    Every time I try to patch the game and launch the patch file executable, it opens two fallout patch -programs, then a command line and tries to start fallout the game. Then everything stops and I can’t do anything.

    I know that it says to wait about 20minutes to the game to patch, but is that normal that I can’t do anything else? There’s just that hourglass everywhere and nothing seems to happen (waited a few minutes).

    Windows task manager just says that CPU usage is almost zero, and memory usage doesn’t vary a bit. Applications -tab shows that all three, 2x fallout patchers and fallout “is not responding”.

    That doesn’t seem normal to me…

    Anyone else had problems with the patch? Does it connect to the internet btw, to download some files? ..because if it does, my firewall might be the cause of it. Fallout3 starts then firewall asks if the patch file can have access to the internet

    I’m only speculating, because there’s a good chance that if the game launches and my firewall brings it back to windows right after that, it might cause the crash..

    • hey… i have this problem too… and i dont know how to solve it… if anybody know… email-me ! please…

  37. This is my fix for the PC random crahes. Mine happen more often in smaller areas. every 30 to 60 min in wastelands, 10 to 20 (or less) in metro stations and vaults (not including vault 101. that was hell) and anywhere from every 5 sec to 4 min in shacks and houses. My crash is a video freeze with music continuing. First my specs.

    Win XP 64 bit latest
    gigabyte ga-x38-dq6 mobo
    w/ realtek hd onboard sound (think thats the problem)
    Pentium 2.4 GHZ q6600
    Radeon HD 2900 1GB GDDR3
    4 GB Ram (2 x 2 GB) can’t remeber brand

    now my fix:
    First off, play in windowed mode. makes ending program during freeze easier cause u can see task manager to end the program.
    Second, save often, even repeatedly.
    THIRD AND MOST IMPORTANT. I save, and then reload my game from the main menu. MEANING; save game, press esc, go to quit, select main menu, then reload game. I do this at different intervals dependnig where I am. if in the wasteland, every 30 to 60 min. In vaults or metros or other large indoor areas (ex. superdupermart), every 10 or 20 min. Now inside shacks and houses, I usually enter the place, let the game autosave, exit and reload as instructed above, then play like hell, quicksaving often. the game will freeze, so I end program and start it over until I get what needs to be done done, and then run like hell for the entrance.

    Now beleive me, I still have stressfull times. Vault 101 was a pain, and there have been a few areas out there that are just as bad. my crashes are completely random, and never happen during conversations, or pip boy sessions. and sometimes i think pip boy sessions may help but not entirely sure. With this technique, I have been able to play 25 + hours, and really only freeze when I lose trackof time, or come across a small area. My PC loads quick after ending the program since the levels seem to stay in ram. IF not for that I would have lost whats left of my mind.

    Hope this helps and let it be noted I have tried the following to no avail:
    0 MB page file didn’t work (although I never did change it back. still at 0MB)
    New audio codecs (k-lite)
    disabling fddshow audio (didn’t try disabling it in video)
    changing graphics options (antialiasing and txture mapping still are off)

    Good luck!

    • Sounds slot like the multi-processor bug which makes sense with your quad-core. The fix is easy luckily but it does involve setting fallout to run with less cores which may be a strain on your pc. Probably not even noticeable though.

      Open the folder My documents / My Games / Fallout3
      Edit the file FALLOUT.ini.
      Inside FALLOUT.ini look for a group called [general].
      Inside the general group, after all the configuration parameters, just copy and paste the following 2 lines:
      bUseThreadedAI=1
      iNumHWThreads=2

      If crashes still occur then open it again and change iNumHWThreads=2 to iNumHWThreads=1

      One of the patches for Fallout causes multithreading to become unstable so this should apiece your freezing (go figure, a bestheda patch causing bugs)

  38. Disabling the page file is never a good idea. Windows, and programs running in Windows, know the difference between virtual memory and physical memory. If all the virtual memory suddenly is no longer available, it doesn’t mean that the program will write all its contents to physical ram (like so many people tell you), it just means the program will no longer have access to the valuable resource (pagefile). Disabling a pagefile may not HARM some programs, however, it does not HELP any.

    Downside is, many programs NEED the pagefile in order to function correctly. So, at best, your getting 0 performance increase, and at worst, other programs besides Fallout3 will begin to crash/become unstable.

    Next time, before recommending that people do something as drastic as disabling the Windows pagefile, please do a little research on the topic….

  39. “Disabling the page file is never a good idea.”

    Well, I wonder if XP got too far with the dependancy on the pagefile as a valuable resource, but originally the pagefile was a wheelchair for the systems which had not enough physical ram installed. In every aspect, physical RAM is much better over tha pagefile stuff as:

    - faster
    - to handle pagefile, the system needs physical ram, bigger pagefile requires even more physical ram –> trap of 22

    So, rules introduced by the windows users like “use pagefile with the size of 1-2x of the physical ram installed” are completely stupid – if we have more RAM installed, we need less pagefile!

    Also, programs normally don’t know if they have pagefile or physical ram, because it is completely transparent for them – only the operating system shoud know it.

    “at best, your getting 0 performance increase”
    HELL, stop spreading this: pagefile much slower than physical ram. If a program doesn’t need to use pagefile, swapping wont happen, and bam, it is a huge performance increase (like stuttering because the working harddrives go away).

    I used an XP with 2GB Ram for years with only 500MB (min and max were set to 500MB) pagefile, so totally I had ~2.5GB ram (physical+pagefie), and no program complained about memory shortage.

    Where you may be right: it might happen, that you run out of memory (physical ram + pagefile), and THIS can cause real troubles – well, I had one case, and the system slowed down for a minute and I got a message from the XP saying the pagefile size was increased automatically. Apart from this, we DONT NEED PAGEFILE if we have plenty of RAM available.

  40. I think i’ll try turning pagefile to zero seem to make logical sense less architecture changes and shorter frontside bus path on the mobo. But before I do this can someone tell me how much RAM fallout uses at it’s max peeks. I have 2.5 gigs of RAM but if fallout spikes about that is certain areas one for a sec, would that crash the game sense it would not have pagefile to feed it more ram of the hardrive? please corrected me if i’m wrong

  41. As far as I know, until you don’t thinker with the windows ini files, the maximum memory size which available for any single application is 2GB. So no application may use more than 2GB. However, don’t forget that the windows also need memory for itself…

    I think you can try this out – dont worry too much about the dangerous messages. If it doesn’t work, you will be able to turn it on again.

    I forgot to mention in my previous post, because the applications may not know if they use physical or virtual (pagefile) memory, I don’t really believe that turning out of the pagefile could help – if it does, that means something wrong with the pagefile handling mechanism within the windows :).
    But anyway… if someone tried it out and this solution fixed the crashes for him… who I am to deny it? :) Programming and computers are made by humans, so anything possible, even if we don’t know the reasons behind it.

  42. I tried all possible fixes (installing new drivers, flashing the BIOS, disabling / enabling port forwarding / disabling / enabling firewalls, getting custom codecs (Like K-Lite) and then disabling FDDSHOW) but the ONE thing that fixed it for me was uninstalling GamerOSD and ASUS Smart Doctor. No idea why it was causing the crashes for me but uninstalling them fixed it!

    I was getting the crashes at the very first loading screen just after clicking start new game.

    I’m running Vista 32-bit, Pentium D 2.8GHz, 9800GT 512mb Nvidia Geforce, 3GB DDR2 800MHz.

    Hope this helps someone.

  43. Another confirmed fix for random Fallout3 lockups – SOUND CONFIG
    - confirmed for Vista, not sure about XP, if anyone using XP could test and respond it would be great

    Anyway, I’ve had several customers with issues, as well as myself, that have been fixed doing this. Same issues, random lockups that generally get more and more frequent, making the game unplayable (but not locking up the OS, just the game). And these lockups were only in Fallout3, no other games (except UT3, which had similar sound issues/lockups and may also be helped with this).

    The problem has been the surround sound in every case so far, and has been resolved by setting your Vista sound config to 2speaker stereo mode instead of anything higher (so far I haven’t tested to see if 4speaker will work or not, that’s going to be my next step).

    So far Fallout3 plays just fine, no lockups since the change. I personally went from 10-15 lockups an hour as the issue had progressed, to over 12 hours playing without a single lockup so far (one 8hour session included) – quicksaving is much faster as well.

    Of course this is a horrible thing to have to suffer for, especially for someone who is so used to my 7.1 surround sound setup, and I’m still disgusted with Bethesda for screwing this up so badly. However, the game otherwise is just so great I can’t help but play it anyway, even in 2channel sound. Here’s hoping for a patch!

    More info – most sound cards in systems that were fixed by this were Creative, but not all – so far only common link was they were all in multi-speaker mode, and so far no driver, directx, game, or other updates have fixed the issue.

  44. Hi, slightly of track, but still regarding Fallout 3
    I left my computer running whilst i went out, when I returned my computer was frozen and required a re-boot (Fallout was in the drive at the time)
    I had to reboot in safe mode to get it to start up.
    Ever since then, i have been unable to load fallout.
    drive does not wont to recognise the disk.
    All other discs work fine, and strangely enough fallout works perfectly
    in other computers. Any ideas?

  45. Well all nice try’s, however the main fix on here is to kill the pagefile, WARNING!! do NOT kill your pagefile if you have less than 3GB of DDR2/DDR3 ram in your system as system performance will slow to a halt especially if you are running Fallout 3 under minimum system requirements, and the game may not start at all. -TRY- instead updating your Direct X components for windows as this is a common cause for errors on some computers with anti-spyware programs on it, SINCE direct X is a system component many anti-virus/anti-spyware programs block modifying this program and the fallout 3 installer does not give a faild upgrade message. also try downloading the ffdshow program as a stand alone and reinstalling it, that way you can be sure you have excluded fallout 3 from using it, and of course update your graphics card drivers. these things may or may not work, but they are steps that should be taken. Happy Gaming =)

  46. Sound issues sound issues sound issues.
    As an audiophile it drives me bonkers that they can not get multispeaker sound and other HD sound options to work in games.

    All of my crashes I feel have to do with the processing of the sound as when multiple sounds are playing etc etc
    I frequently get skippage in battles and such.

    def would be great to see patch fix this!

  47. Yep I paid good money to be a beta tester. Lol. Gosh this game looks fun. I just wish I could play it.

    High end system. Vista, 3gig Ram, 800 gig hard drive, geforce 8600GT video card, RealTek audio.

    Ive tried EVERY tip or trip i could find on the net. Even updated 10 drivers that needed.

    Game is still Broken.

    baaaad Bethesda…. Bad.

  48. I must remind everyone:

    If you have gamerOSD or AsusSmartDoctor uninstall it if you want to play fallout 3, it was THE fix for me. For some reason Fallout3 doesn’t like OSD or SmartDoctor.

  49. I had problems with the XBOX360 version – random crashes/lockups. I tried the cache clearing bit first with no luck. What I suspected and then tried doing was clearing out the number of saved games I had. ( over 300) Once I brought the saved games down to about 20 and then did the cache clear again. I am up and running again, an occasionally pause on the screen ( 1 sec delay ) is all I see now. I don’t think my xbox hard drive was large enough for what the game wanted???

  50. I guess I was wrong with my theroy, i have only a few saved games and 8G+ free on the harddrive. Getting a consistant lockup in the en’fant plaza area… very annoying that I can’t play without this happening? looking for other suggestions.

  51. Rasman, even though my advice is far from something reliable, you could give it a try:

    If the game locks up in a specific place or after you perform a certain action, try approaching the situation differently. Most of the problems I had with the game were caused by my character running too fast through the environment and tons of enemies. Always a different approach (more tactical, let’s say) helped. I have no idea if the same would help you get over the problems, but it’s worth a try! Good luck!

  52. I have been struggling with this game since it came out on PC. It would crash whenever the auotsave feature engaged, so I turned off autosave. Then it would crash randomly when I would save a game manually. It was a crapshoot. Sometimes it would crash when I opened a door. Other times it would crash when I was walking a straight line, LOL. Also, it was guaranteed to crash every time I closed the game. The screen would stay on the game images, but underneath was a memory read error, essentially locking my PC until I hit “Enter”.

    I tried every fix out there several times. Last night, I switched from an NVidia graphics card to an ATI. This likely has nothing to do with my solution, but I believe in offering all the steps I took to get where I am now (crash-free). The thing I think fixed all the crashes for me is an update to the XLive dll files. I downloaded the most recent XLive redistributable from M$oft and upgraded my system. Since then, not one single crash in over five hours of gameplay.

    Good luck, I hope this helps you people. The crashing is unbelievably frustrating, but at least the game starts really fast after crashing, right?

  53. I tried turning off the autosave(s) as well as downloading the new xlive stuff from Moneysoft. I got about three steps farther into the Atrium level (judging from the footfall sounds) before it locked up just like it used to. Some experimentation has shown that I can do pretty much anything but move without it locking/crashing.

  54. I tried something that I read and it worked – I turned the graphics down one single piddly notch on a couple of the low-impact areas and no more crashing problems *knock on wood*. I hope it helps.

  55. I FIXED IT!!! :) :) :) :)
    I dont know if this will work for you but try it. I have tryied a whole lots of “fixes” but none worked for me. BUT THIS ONE HAS.
    First go to TesNexus and download windows maximizer mod.
    Then configure it (youl find all the instructions in the read me).
    Start the game in windowed mode and once inside a level, that means whaen you are actually playing. Alt-Tab and start windows maximizer.
    Your game window will become like full screen mode.

    This fixed the crashes for me before I couldn’t even play like 2 mins, NOW I PLAYED FOR AN HOUR, AND THEN I EXITED THE GAME. NO CRASH!! I MADE iT! Hope it works for you.

  56. Congrats, Maverick! I’m glad you did it and you can finally enjoy the full experience of Fallout 3! I would’ve never thought about such a fix, but as long as it works, it’s great!

  57. thx man :) and I will enjoy it be sure of that! :)

  58. # Dougamer December 4th, 2008 11:48 pm :

    I tried all possible fixes (installing new drivers, flashing the BIOS, disabling / enabling port forwarding / disabling / enabling firewalls, getting custom codecs (Like K-Lite) and then disabling FDDSHOW) but the ONE thing that fixed it for me was uninstalling GamerOSD and ASUS Smart Doctor. No idea why it was causing the crashes for me but uninstalling them fixed it!

    I was getting the crashes at the very first loading screen just after clicking start new game.

    I’m running Vista 32-bit, Pentium D 2.8GHz, 9800GT 512mb Nvidia Geforce, 3GB DDR2 800MHz.

    Hope this helps someone.

    Thanks you very much man, it’s working now for me :)

  59. Regarding the OP, what is the System Blade?

  60. My Xbox 360 fallout 3 disc says it can’t be read everytime i try to click the load option on the game’s opening menu. I have never had problems with crashing before, so it was rather sudden. I have tried another fallout 3 disc and it dosen’t work but all my other games work fine. I also have cleaned the cache, loaded the game to the hard drive, and deleted some of my saved files and nothing seems to work. Any ideas or am I just screwed?

  61. My fallout 3 disk cannot be read of my xbox but all my other games work fine. Eveytime I get to the opening menu and click load or continue, the game says the disk cannot be read. I tried renting a new disk but it has the same problem. I also clened the cache and it had no effect. Any ideas?

  62. yeah sorry for the double post. didn’t think the first one went through….

  63. It is indeed a strange problem, since it does not appear to be a scratched disk, nor a problem with your DVD-ROM. Did you somehow install the latest patch (or any patch) before these problems appeared or it’s something which appeared out of nowhere?

  64. No, it just appeared out of the blue. I got scared at first because I thought I had scratched the disk somehow but when I looked it, it looked fine. I went ought and rented a new disk anyway to see if the disk was in fact the problem and it obviously wasn’t. I have no idea what to do now. Are there any options?

  65. I am sorry, I’m all out of ideas as well… maybe somebody else has a solution or some advice, though.

    You could also try to start a new game, save it in a new spot then try the load option – it’s a really long shot and I’m sure you tried it, but in such exceptional circumstances, everything is worth a try. Good luck!

  66. Fallout 3 is a great game. a great game. i never played fallout 1 or 2 , but when i played this Fallout 3.. wow..
    then i start to enjoy the game. play it like i play any other games.. then 10 minutes later… CRASHES.. played it again.. CRASHES… again.. CRASHES..
    an endless array of CRASHES…

    randomly crashes..anywhere,anytime,everytime i played the game called Fallout 3.

    Tried all the fix… from the ffdshow thing,to updating drivers,paging etc and nothing seems to work.
    i patched the latest patch..and it didn’t work.
    i also tried *illegal* ones, and it also didn’t work. nothing works.
    i think there is an extra Quest in this game..the Quest to fix the CRASHES.. im jealous of those who plays Fallout 3 without any crashes or lockups. I want to play like them too!! no CRASHES or whtsoever.
    i am heartbroken bethesda. :( but its a great game..

  67. Evening all,
    Well i have been playing FO3 on xbox for the last 3 months, i have about 130 hours under my belt, but i am getting lockup / freezes when ever i go to Rivet City and only Rivet City. Don’t know why …. i play the game for several hours without a problem, but within 5 minutes of getting into Rivet City everything freezes. Is anyone else having this problem? Is there a solution to this problem??
    Can not be a hard ware issue otherwise iot would be locking up all the time where ever i was in the game.
    I have tried contacting and speaking with Microsoft about the xbox, but they are about as usefull as titties on a bull.
    Any suggestions???

  68. I’m done tinkering with this game until Bethseda fixes it. I’ve tried to play it on PC, and the crashes are just unacceptable. I will never purchase a game made by Bethseda again.

  69. Hey again..

    Haven’t played Fallout in few months now, or pretty much any other games eather, been too busy.

    I just bought yesterday a new ATX case and 650W power for my new computer setup that I’m about to assembly in next week or so. It was about goddamn time..

    Here’s my current hardware that I played Fallout3 successfully (belive it or not) after the fresh OS install and virtual mem disabled:

    -MSI- MS-7145 mobo socket 754
    -Sempron 2800+ 1,6Ghz CPU
    *-(btw, big lol bethesda about CPU minimum.. The minimum is 2,4Ghz in Fallout3 DVD covers!! And I played it pretty smoothly considering that I’m almost one gigaherz below the minimum req! heh.. wouldn’t work on vista though ;) And believe it or not, I got even GTA IV working with that machine, although the FPS was pretty low..lol.. Not playable, but it started :D)
    -Memory DDR 200mhz, 1,5Gb (1x kingston 1gb, 1x unknown 512mb, so they don’t eaven work at dual rate. cpuz says the mem speed is 160mhz.. :/
    -MSI GeForge 7950GT with 512Mb DDR3 -Graphics driver

    ..there’s the most important ones. btw, I bought the game because I’m a hardcore Fallout fan since the first Fallout, so I didn’t think if it works on my computer or not, if not, then I’ll play it when I upgrade my computer. Same with GTA IV.

    So, the reason I’m posting this is that I’m about to assembly a new PC here.. I’m eager to find out what Fallout3 will say when I install it to a brand new system. ATX case and power I already bought, I’m still waiting for the components. Here’s what I’ve ordered:

    -ASUS M3A78-T AMD 790GX ATX -mainboard
    -AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition 3.0Ghz (easy to overclock)
    -Kingston HyperX 4096MB (4GB) 800MHZ DDR2 (pack of 2x 2gb)
    *-(I only ordered 4gb since I’m using 32bit OS for now. 8Gb would be good for 64Bit or Vista because RAM is so cheap these days. 4gigs were abour 45€)
    -For graphics card, I’m planning to put the one from my old computer, that MSI FeForce 7950Gt I mentioned before.
    -All that goes into Antec Twelve Hunderd case powered by Corsair 650w.)

    I’ll report here how fallout 3 is working when I get all the things together and installed.

  70. The patch that I just downloaded for Fall out 3 wont even let me past the Bethesda softworks screen and I dont know what to to!! I cant even get to the start screen

  71. Hey, Jay! It’s been a while, indeed! I hope that following the upgrade you’ll have an even more pleasant experience with Fallout 3. I also stopped playing the game a while back, after bagging a bit over 110 hours (but without exploring the entire Wastelands!), but I certainly continue after a major upgrade like yours!

    @ASH: Unfortunately, if the game is unplayable, all I can suggest is uninstalling the patch…

  72. i just bought fallout3 and a brand new xbox 360 pro..

    and i just started getting the locks up i mean when you are at the the school and you have to go investigate megaton city go thru a certain doorway and bam get the load screan and then it stops loading but i can hear the cd spinning but yet no reloading to the next zone this started happening yesterday..

    after the updates to the dashboard i am still getting the locks up at certain doors in the elementary school if i want to go back toa certain zone will cause the lock up at the load screen..

  73. Yeah i give up now. By far my fave game but i cannot be bothered anymore.
    Ive tried everything with the XBOX yet to no avail.
    Like someone said earlier it could be to do with going from good karma to bad karma as i completed it with good karma with no probs at all.

  74. PC VERSION

    If fallout 3 crashesx every time you try to load a game save or load a new game then try reinstalling your graphics card drivers. Then DO NOT RESTART YOUR COMPUTER click restart latter then open the game.

    Every time i want to play the game i have to do this on my comp (((I have a EN9500GT graphics card))))

  75. i am having the same problem on the xbox 360, im at the point where you hook up with your father at the treatment plant and some ‘goons’ show up, dont want to spoil anything, anyways, i try to exit the building and it wont let me, it tries to load, but then just freezes, i cleaned the catche, my disc barely has a mark on it, i did purchased the game on release day, so maybe i have an ealier buggy version? also i went from bad karma to good karma (dont know if that makes a difference) are there patches available on XBL that can fix this problem? or should i contact bethesda and demand my money back.

  76. Brad Hellickson

    WOW I have tried everything. Running on 360 and is crashing everytime I visit 10 penny tower. Kills the console. Cleared the cache bought a second copy of the game. Very frustrating. Bethesda support non responsive. Thanks Bethesda for teasing us with such a cool game but with so many issues. I guess Fallout goes on the shelf now and I think twice before buying another Bethesda release.

  77. I have been playing this game for about 40 hours now and I was just getting REALLY into it. then the crashes begun. I’ve read over EVERY useful post (I own the XBOX 360 version) and NOTHING has worked. Has anybody formatted their hardrive to try and get this thing running? or maybe NOT download that stupid patch? I have the 120 GB HD and have 40 GB free so I dont THINK its that but I could be wrong. You were saying how it has a problem handling memory? maybe it needs the full 120 GB? that would suck. I think I’m just going to return it(If I can)

  78. patch did not help me, i am too busy (and now just frustrated) to start over, (45 hours playing time) after work tomorrow i am going to the post office and sending the disc and cover to Bethesda Softworks, LLC
    a ZeniMax Media company.
    1370 Piccard Drive, Suite 120
    Rockville, MD 20850
    along with a note “thanks for the demo disc”
    i could trade it in at gamestop, but whats a few dollars.

  79. no, don’t think it’s the amount of memory, but something on how it handles it. And that seems to be in very rare cases, I’ve bumped to only a few other players that the pagefile trick has helped.

    Also about the patch, I didn’t eaven got it installed. My computer freezed the second I clicked the patchfile.exe I downloaded from a reliable source.

    u know what we need? WE NEED A GAMERS UNION! Just like labour union, all gamers unite.

    I see I’m feeling idealistic today..hehe..

    If 90% of the gamers had a single organization who could for example temporarily BAN some game, like Fallout3, until it’s been fixed so that it works like it should.

    Every game retail shop would take the game off it shelfs, or it would have to have a visible round yellow sticker on it that would warn about the game, and say something like that there’s no refund eaven if the game does not do what it’s supposed to.

    …damn that would be sweet.

    Nice move btw, to return the game, since you couldn’t get it to work. I hope more ppl will do this, and EVERYONE who has bought Fallout3 could send bethesda an e-mail and threaten to boikot everything they make in the future.

  80. so im getting the same prob as alot of others here on the xbox 360 version. what really irritates me tho is that this is my second play through of the game, first time around everything was fine and i couldnt understand the problems everybody else was talking about – what a fool i was!

    the game wont get past the load screen when i try to exit through a basement door at jefferson memorial and of course this is the only door through which to exit! and ive also had some issues with the screen tearing as mentioned in other posts.

    i have tried clearing the cache – the load ticker progressed more than it had previously but then seized up again, and ive reduced the number of saves but no joy.

    im now going to go back a few hours into the game and try again.
    if that doesnt work i may try – fallout 3, will it blend!!?

  81. I played fallout 1 and 2, my favorite games. I waited years for this game to come out just to destroy my dreams…. I have tried everything for 5 months. I have tried it on 4 different computers. so frustrated with this game i have started to pull out other peoples hair……….

  82. Did you figure out why the game crashes after clicking the play button on the launch menu?

  83. I promised to put some info here how it runs on my current setup.

    The installer sets up the resolution to 240×160 or something, so I was frustrated because I thought that it’s gonna be a long fight again.

    Well, installed the latest patch and after that realised that I need to configure resolution from launcher. After that procedure, I haven’t had a single crash so far at the game.

    did crash one time, but i think it was when i was quitting to main menu or desktop or something..

    I haven’t played long though, only started to play vault 101, then loaded my old savegames, and they appeared to load and play ok, allthough I didn’t do any playing marathons.

    hehh.. maybe you should have waited the latest patch, sorry don’t remember your name, you who send Bethesda back the game

    not sure but the patch COULD have fix the bug you had..

    my current specs:

    |Asus M3A78-T|Phenom II X4 940BE [OC to 3,60Ghz]|Noctua Nh-C12P|Kingston 2x 2GB 800MHZ (OC to 900Mhz)|Club3D ATI Radeon HD4870x2 2GB|2x WD Caviar 640Gb 32Mb|Corsair TX650w|Antec Twelwe Hundred|Samsung Syncmaster 226BW|Logitech G9|eXel [sharp]|WinXP Pro [32bit]|

  84. yea im playin da pit and when i try 2 go downtown my game freezes can anyone help me?

  85. My PC, using XP, was crashing immediately upon launching the game. I’ve tried several fixes that have done nothing but I just tried “dougamer’s” suggestion of uninstalling GamerOSD and ASUS Smart Doctor and interestingly the PC no longer crashes. However now I get the message that the program has experienced a problem and of course it won’t run. At least my PC does not blue screen anymore, maybe someday Bethesda will figure this out but I’m not holding my breath.

  86. I was checking out another forum on this topic and I came across this.

    “Go to my documents/ my games/ then delete the fallout 3 folder then play the game again!!”

    I did this and like magic Fallout 3 started after I launched it from the desktop icon, the game had me select the default video setting and then it started. Amazing that it was that easy.
    (PC, Windows XP)

  87. Congrats on finding out the solution, corza! I’m glad you’ve also shared with us, happy playing!

    @gpm: Sorry, I have no idea what to suggest. Maybe others will be able to help you.

  88. UPDATE @gpm: I have just found out that The Pitt for Xbox is full of bugs and a fix is expected. So it it was the Xbox version of the game you were talking about, that’s why the game crashes and all you can do is wait for a fix.

    Here are the details on The Pitt problems: http://www.unigamesity.com/fallout-3-dlc-the-pitt-is-full-of-bugs/

  89. I have it running good on my PC so this is a PC fix only
    but the fix is not easy to do.
    all the other people saying was a ffdshow codec or memory or whatever else is full of it .
    it was the patch but who knows when they will ever fix it.

    you have to reinstall the game with no patch then patch it to v1.0.0.15
    if you don’t have any DLC just stop there and your don’t.
    do not sign on to windows live because it will install the patch so it might be worth it to get the disable windows live mod if you think you might screw up and accidentally hit yes during the load screen

    if you do want to use the DLC well then get ready to pull your hair it because you have a hour or so work ahead of you

    here’s the link to the Fake patch and how to get it to work.
    it works I’m using it now and I think I should get aGeek achievement award for it

    http://www.bethsoft.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=970907&hl=

  90. Exile’s advice worked for me. NO crashes through the whole game, the Pitt, or Anchorage. Patched, patched, selected the unofficial patch in the data tab at startup and it worked like it’s supposed to.

  91. I have to use the Xbox 360 fix every couple of days, otherwise the game runs slow and locks up frequently.

    Despite this, it’s still my favorite title for the system. I just wish they’d patch it.

  92. I wish to throw in my two cents, and hope it helps someone, here goes!

    1) Yes, Vista updates your graphics / sound / anything driver IF the vista database has it. If you are having troubles, get the driver from the website of the manufacturer. I am running two 8800 GT’s and vista loads up a driver that works, but glitches and crashes games. I got the driver from Nvidias site, and it works fine.

    2) I think it is the patch that is messing up the game. I played the game on Vista 64 bit and 32 bit and XP no problem, but when I go to patch it, I can barely get past the birth sequence. It will crash at random intervals, but will not last long at all, between a second and a few minutes is all I get.

    3) For those who say if it works without the patch, dont patch it, I want to try some of the DLC, and unfortunatly, you need to be fully updated to run the “windows marketplace” (What a dumb idea) and download the DLC (For anyone who doesnt know, fallout 3 so far came out with 3 expansions to the game, they are called Download Content or DLC).

    4) If you are trying to run mods on fallout 3 in vista, you can not have the game installed to program files. Vista is very paranoid about files being midified and tries very hard to not let you even change a word document you create if its in the right folder. Try installing your game to a different directory, or if you are in a different directory, try installing it to the default, see if that works!

    If I come up with any solutions, Ill post, and I know this wasnt TOO helpful, but I can hope ill be more helpful and find a solution.

  93. Hi

    This is just not on.

    I played the game first time round. Did not know the main quest line is so short, so finished it in no time. Having enjoyed it so much, no real crashes etc., I decided to start a new character and doing more side quests.

    All worked nice up to lvl 11 about. Then game started crashing at random places when saving. Only when saving the game. Be it autosave when traveling/sleeping, quicksave or normal save. Does not matter. Just CTDs.

    Loading a game from few saves back, I tried doing some stuff differently, but at some random place and time it just starts doing it again.

    This ONLY happens with my second character. Never at any specific place or by doing a specific mission or at a certain time. Its just random.Then try as you may, changing anything to everything from game settings to inventory to deleting excess games from save game folders, loading that last save game will crash as soon as I try to save again or game autosaves.

    I read countless posts now and tried all viable solutions. Virtual memory, programs in background etc.

    I cant see how this could be a hardware problem, as loading a game from my first character causes NO problems. I can play for hours on end without anything going wrong. Almost lvl 21 now.

    Im really peed on by this as I really dont want to start over again and I done some nice stuff with the new character.

  94. Ive hear running it in window works

  95. I rented the game and it freezes while its loading a new game. Should I not have downloaded to update for it? Is my xbox on the was out?
    The instructions to reset system cache did make sense to me.
    Please help me, I am to lazy to fix it myself

  96. Fallout 3 won’t work at all for some reason! On the launcher screen when i click play, the game will attempt to load. It’s a black screen with the hour glass cursor in the middle. Then the game crashes to my desktop and the error meesage says “An error has been encountered and the program needs to shut down.”

    What the hell is going on! I haven’t even got to see the introduction of the game.

    Please help!

  97. hey guys im running fallout 3 on my laptop. my specs are 3Gb RAM, and a nvidia 9200 256 mb video card. The thing sometimes it runs fine and sometimes it freezes as the game loads and the screen becomes all messed even after i close fallout i dont know why this happens cud u help me out plz

  98. I have never dealt with serious crashing like I am now. I have beat the whole game and now im onto Broken Steel… It now crashes and its pissing me off. I have Vista 64bit. Someone know any way to fix this yet?

  99. I’ve got a fix for 64 bit users Vista and Windows 7…re: constant crashes -Total Page file to a bare minium, i’ve got mine set as 200MB and it works like a dream as I found out last night not one crash for over 1 hour period.

  100. BTW my set up is on high settings for Fallout 3 for all parts except Point Look Out which I have not got as yet.
    PC – Intel Core Duo E8500 @3.16Ghz
    4 Gig ram Ballastics
    Windows 7 Ultimate
    9600 Gt OC MSI

  101. My game crashes ramdomly at loading screens. That loading clock stops and the game freezes.

  102. My game crashes every time I leave vault 101. The whole Beginning of the game runs great, but as soon as I step outside of the Vaulkt, my entire system crashes and reboots. After I log back into Windows, I get a message that says “the system has recovered from a serious error.”
    I’m running it on 32bit XP with an Nvidia Geforce 6200 card and a Realtek soundcard and 1GB of RAM… Yes I realize these are pretty dated stats… I run the game on low settings. Yet as soon as I leave the vault, everything goes to hell.

  103. i disable the pagefile and this improved the game performance and game isnt crashing until ram is fully loaded
    i have different question;

    i installed the game to the drive F:(western digital – sata)
    and pagefile is in the systemdrive C:(samsung – another sata drive)

    so when game is being unstable when harddsiks working hardly i think system drive, page file drive, and fallout must be in same drive and same partition..
    if anybody try this please comment here…

    i cant try this because i have no disk space for fallout on my system drive C:

  104. MY’n ALLWAYS crashes when im in rivet city i meen wtf is that about? im gonna try cleaning my cache

  105. My game was crashing on the 360 once or twice a day, so I cleaned the cache, doing what you said, and my 360 won’t even start the game now. I can get to the main menu but it freezes when I try to load a game.

  106. ye know what !!
    F*CK THIS GAME
    i’m not going to stare to the damn black screen again

  107. *This is directly from my blog and the following info has fixed my fallout 3 game*

    Before looking for fixes make sure you make the minimum system requirements required to the run game

    And also that all your drivers for your video and sound cards are up to date

    Minimum System Requirements:

    Windows XP/Vista
    1GB System RAM (XP)/ 2GB System RAM (Vista)
    2.4 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
    Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 256MB RAM (NVIDIA 6800 or better/ATI X850 or better)

    If your computer does not meet these standards consider this your problem

    Also if you have a cracked version of fallout 3 consider this your problem

    —————————————————————————————————
    Crashing when attempting to create a new game/resume

    This was the issue I had when attempting to play fallout 3 the issues lies with your ffdshow codec the easiest way of fixing this is to download this program which allows you to view all of your installed codecs available here
    http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/installedcodec.zip
    Once downloaded and installed follow the onscreen instructions
    and then run the program
    at this point you should have a list of all your installed
    codecs (if not find a refresh button)
    what I did was hit Ctrl-A to select all of the items on the list and hit the
    *Disable Selected Items* button
    try running the game and see if it works

  108. Im fuc*ing tired of this sh*t.
    Im SO done, I cant even be fuc*ed to hit google up
    and look for “Fallout 3 Crash fix” anymore. Im done.

    F**k you bethesda, next time you decide to make a game (Which I
    will NOT buy by the way) make sure ITS FUC*ING PLAYABLE!

    -Love Echo

  109. Ive searched internet for a fix to this crashing for a week straight now.
    Ive tried everything suggested.
    I will be unistalling the game now becuase i give up.

    Im sure this repeated crashings and hackery ‘fixes’ has taken a toll on my computer. not worth it. My computer is fine…The game is not.

    I’ll make sure not to buy games from Bethesda anymore. Thats all I can do.

  110. IF YOU HAVE A 360 VERSION WITH EXPANSION PACKS DO NOT TRY!!!!
    Lol you made everything worse……
    I tried reloading my cache and now Ive lost ALL my expansion packs downloads along with not even being able to load now.
    Wow geius!!!

  111. I knew better. I will NEVER buy a Bethesda Softworks product again. I’m running Vista and my system is fine. The problem is not with you. It is with them. They provide the richest detail that can possibly be offered – - but I have NEVER finished any of their games due to lock ups. This goes back to Daggerfall, the other Fallouts, and Morrowind. I refused to buy Oblivion after being so thoroughly burned by EVERY ONE of Bethesda Softworks products. I have wasted so much time and money on their poorly structured programs that I am angry and ready to consider litigation.

    Whose with me on the idea of a class action lawsuit against a company that sells a product that fails to do what it says it will?

    As it is, I feel like a total chump for falling for their line of of baloney again. I wanted it to work so bad and from the advertisments and kudos on the back of the box I thought that maybe they’d gotten their act together. Instead, I have wasted several days trying to coax this lame program into doing its job. And now I will turn it off forever, kiss my fifty bucks and hours of wasted time goodbye, and plot a lawsuit. How many millions of people have gotten burned by this company?

    Any takers?

  112. i give up i have been looking at all of your comments along with several other boards to fix this game. i played through the game once with no problems on the xbox 360 but did maybe half the quests. Went back got all the dlc had about 93 hours in total with just about everything done (except main quest). Then the the fun started with crashes every thirty minutes and has now gotten to the point of a few seconds. I have cleaned my cache removed dlc and still this game will not work properly. This is more about frustation than a solution, I deleted my save files and anything else to do with fallout 3. Thanks Bethseda for 93+ hours i’ll never get back.

  113. Googled this forever before I finally found a fix. I had random lockups and I tried everything, but nothing worked. I came across a site that said the problem is with mulitcore process and you have to force the game to only use 2. I tried the fix and it worked! No more crashes what so ever. Below are the instrucitons.
    Open up the fallout.ini file in: My Documents\My Games\Fallout3
    Find the line:
    bUseThreadedAI=0
    change it to:
    bUseThreadedAI=1
    Add another line after it and insert:
    iNumHWThreads=2
    This will limit the game to 2 cores and prevent the engine bug from causing the game to freeze.

  114. Read thru all of these, not sure if I’m having the same issues as most of you or not. I can be playing for 10 min or sometimes up to an hour…then the game will just crash and I get the blue screen of death. Then the computer will reboot… The first few times this happened I freaked out. Then started looking into why it was happening.

    Most solutions you will get say Update drivers, check your BIOS, etc..etc… So, I did all that… yet, it still crashes. Downloaded the patch thinking it would help…. Negative. Haven’t tried that Unofficial Patch as of yet… I’ll give it a shot tonight.

    System:
    AMD 64×2 (6000)
    ASUS M2N SLI Deluxe
    Win XP SP3
    NVidia 9800 GTX

  115. so I hear some of you are having problems with this game not working ?
    well let me try to help some of you.
    first (and trust me this is going to suck) i need you to uninstall your game
    then I need you to get rid of the folder that the game was in.
    now I want you to reinstall the main game and ONLY THE MAIN GAME and patch it to v1.7 you can find that here http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/downloads/updates.html do not have any thing else installed when you patch to v1.7. For some dumbass reason when you patch your game and you have mods in or expansion pack’s in it get’s all messed up that’s why you need to patch the main game before you you do any mod or pack installs another thing you need to know some mod’s that you get for you game might be crashing your game too!!! so be light on your mod’s and the expansion packs should always be fine I do hope i helped some of you

    your pall kingdeath_2006

  116. Thanks folks. Zaphod, your tip seemed to cut crashes down to a more manageable frequency. It’s a cool game when yo can get through it. I haven’t tried Kingdeath’s solutions, but got through the main game (which did seem a bit short). Thanks again folks.

  117. “Fallout3.exe – Application Error
    The exception Illegal Instruction
    An attempt was made to execute an illegal instruction.
    (0xc000001d) occures in the application at location 0x1e334f95.
    Click on OK to terminate the program
    Click on CANCEL to debug the program ”
    I’ve played the game for 1 hour and it was working fine until i got to Megaton it crashes and gives me this error , each time i play from 2-5 minutes and it crashes , please somebody help me , i am so frustrated . :’(

  118. I can not believe that I spent close to 70$ on this game that came with the expansions, and turns out to be one of the biggest buggy flop since Enter The Matrix. What a waste of money, I will never buy a Bethseda game in the future. My question is why release the game at all if they knew about the bug issues and crash issues? What a scam.

  119. yeah it’s pretty buggy but once you get it running it’s worth it.
    make sure you have the latest c++ runtime installed .
    another problem ingame is codec conflicts you have to make sure Fallout.exe is on the ffshow excluded list ,
    it might help to make sure you have the liatiest version of G4WL or disable G4WL if you know how . and disable the achievement tracker .
    also tweak your config check with tweakguides.com formula for adjusting the config file manually to allow the game to use all the cpu cores and use all available memory . after that you can install a auidio filter to fix the radio stutter problem . and install the FOMM to install the fake Xlive.dll to disable G4WL so you can install mods for the game.
    so after a degree in computer science and a few weeks of tweaking you should be able to play the game.

  120. greg person i had the same problem but at the screen were it shows u that u can rename ur hardrive DO NOT DO THE COMBONITION press y for system options and click the bottom option “clear system cache” or sumthing like that :) hope this helps…i knew how to fix it but couldnt find cache button :) and i just did so…happyness :D

  121. This is a “work around”, not a Fix.
    –Jay on PC version of Fallout3.

  122. i just bought the game 5 days ago brand new.4 hours into gameplay i got to the fairfax metro station,and the game started glitching.everytime i press Y to jump it automatically fires my weapon as soon as i land.and when i press the right bumper to go into real time shooting,the game kind of freezes,and the shots from real time dont get fired unless i pause,then unpause the game.i had to restart the whole game from the beginning.its a great game,but if i had known previously about the bugs i wouldnt have wasted my money.

  123. That sytem maintenance rapped my xbox and i lost all my weapons from operation achorage, thanks alot. Give more detail as to the aftermath of system maintenance.

  124. I play this game (or try to) on Vista 64bit. My computer is build for gaming (Quad Core, 4GB RAM, Nividia 9800gt…etc) and I have no issues running games in general. However, this game is just built poorly and refuses to run without frequently freezing. I wouldn’t do too much tinkering with your PC’s because it’s the game not your computer, and if you start messing with something that isn’t broken… well it will be soon enough. The game is cool, but if you can’t play it and have to continuously restart from point to point and lose progress it’s not worth buying or playing. It’s seriously not even acceptable and I’m glad that I bootlegged it before buying it because I would never spend money on this and it should be an embarrassment to the developers. FAIL

  125. I’ve played this for a few weeks on the xbox with no problem, haven’t touched the main mission yet just scouting around various buildings. I’m the type that likes to explore the world of a game and get down to the main storyline when i’ve exhausted all other options. I was down in the sewers when died and when I tried to reload I had my first crash; it wouldn’t load after that. Found this site, tried the system maintenance which did nothing until I went back a step on my saved games. After that everything seemed to work fine. Saved and came out but when I continued reading these comments I got worried that it might not be as fixed as I thought. Will try again and repost if i have any more probs or not, but if this is really the case and this game is bugged then we should all be offered no quibble refunds. I hope I can finish this because its the best thing I’ve ever played and I was loving it right up until the first crash.

  126. This game is crappy. I did manage to make it crash less and run smoother by adding some commands that make it utilize less cores, but it’s still boring.

    If you like walking around and exploring then play World of Warcraft. I think after about three long sessions I completely lost interest in this game. At first it was due to the crashing, and then it was more about how dull the game is.

    The monsters and people are few and far. The guns are ok but finding ammo for the good ones is rare. And on top of it all there is really no skill or strategy involved, it pretty much about time consumption.

    Frankly if I have to go in and start adding code to get a game to work right… I don’t even want to play it in the first place.

    But seriously if a huge world and “True” interaction is what gives you a thrill just play World of Warcraft. I haven’t played it in a long time because I was trying to explore other games, but it’s the best game I ever played. Once again, Fallout 3 sucks and I would give the overall experience of playing it a 0 out of 10. Don’t waste your time with this game or this company. Obviously quality doesn’t matter but I’m sure they appreciate all the money they made off of the unknowing.

  127. The official patch just makes it worse…

    there is NO fix… so don’t waste your time…

    you can reduce the crashes by reducing graphics to minimal…

    and if you got lots of ram disable windows paging file…

    and do NOT download any of the mods available… they are sweet but make it even worse

    overall, great game… cheap ass company wouldnt pay for a new graphics engine.,..

  128. 1st of all, this is my Laptop Spec

    DELL Studio 1557
    Intel Core i7 Quad 720-QM, 3gb of 1333Mhz of DDR3 RAM, ATI 4570 512MB card,500GB HHD 7200rpm,Window 7 Ultimate 64-bit,creative X-Fi sound blaster, Creative 5.1 G500 Speaker..laptop is new,bought it last week…
    ————————————————————————————————-

    I experienced randomly crash to desktop problem@CTD so many times…

    what I already did:-
    -installing the game as i download it=successful!! Very very joy
    -install the patches: v1.1,v1.3, v1.5 and the latest one V1.7= no joy
    -change the fallout folder.ini in notepad=no joy
    -updating my graphic card driver= no joy
    -breaking my laptop=hmmm…still thinking about it..definately no joy at all

    GUYS, PLEASE help..thanks in advance…

  129. This game is a piece of crap as I’ve said the entire time…. FAIL and stop trying to fix it… It’s worthless.

  130. Brilliant. windows 7 just came out, and here i am trying to revert back to XP to play A FREAKING GAME!?!!? cmon Bethesda, show us SOME LURV <3 (it looks like an icecream)

  131. wtf man i got to play this game for an hour and three minutes went to bed next morning tried to start the game and my screen is black and my controller dosen’t connect took the game out tried another game that worked went and bought another copy of fallout 3 still dosent work what the h*ll man

  132. So I’ve been getting the unreadable disc error on Xbox now for a few months – tried copy after copy after copy of the game from gamefly, friends, gamestop exchanges….. same deal every single time. Any time I start a new game, load a previous save, or continue from the main menu – BAM. Unreadable disc. Sucks, ’cause Fallout 3 was my favorite single player game ever.

    Last night, I found out that Fallout 3 had been released as a download from the Xbox LIVE marketplace for $30…. so I thought to myself, “Finally! Can’t have an unreadable disc error if you’re playing the game straight from a hard drive install!”

    Incorrect, apparently. After paying the money and waiting hours for a 5.8gb download, it’s STILL GIVING ME AN UNREADABLE DISC ERROR?!?!?! WHAT THE FREAKING HELL?!?!?!

    I cleared the cache on the HD to no avail. At this point, I’m at my wit’s end. I’ve spent so much freaking money trying to play this game. Is there any help at all for this?

  133. This problem of PC games not wokring properly is happening more often these days, there’s many similar games which aren;t worthy of even being released, Bethesda should be taken to court over this or at least refund everyone, i’m sick of wasting time on this crap, i bet every person here has spent hours messing with it trying to get it working when there is nothing wrong with your PC, you probably cause more problems in trying to fix it!
    I think i’m gonna chuck mine in the bin……….

  134. Wow. That’s all I can say after having read all of this.
    My crash with Fallout has been semi-random. As in when I get my CTD it is always at the exact moment a “creature” dies though not every-time and only out in the wasteland. I was encouraged reading back a ways up this list that perhaps it has to do with 3D sound and multi-channel sound. I will try that out and post back wether or not I find it helpfull.

    Cheers.

  135. I recently bought Fallout (goty edition) for pc. My system is running on Vista premium 64bit. Right off the bat I had trouble installing, my bvd drive would not read disk two and even crashed my pc a couple times. eventually I got it to work(after I gave up and left the disc in about an hour later the disc loaded. I had an error which said something about a missing dynamic link, so I downloaded the upgrade from games for win live website. After that I had the error “missing file d3dx9_38.dll” I downloaded the missing file and tried to copy it to my system32 file but that did not work, instead you must place the dll file to your game folder, after that the game worked fine for me at ultra high quality. However I still am having problems with crashes. I downloaded the updates from bethseda, which are supposed to fix theese problems, such as game crashing as you try to fast travel from megaton etc.. my game will still crash everytime I try to do so and as well it crashes randomly and minimises to my desktop where I cannot max it again . also sometimes it will just crash anywhere giving me the error mess “fallout has stopped working” I have looked alot for a solution to this problem to no avail :( I love this game and spent way too much for it not to work! even bought a 360 wireless joystick just for it! plz if anyone can help I would greatly appreciate it!! Also I am planning to upgrade to win7 in the next few days …maybe that will help?

  136. I have GOTY edition on
    Pentium D 2.8
    2.5GB RAM
    Nvidia GTS 250 1GB
    win XP sp3
    .net framework 3.5
    GAME CRASHES EVERY 10-15mins at random
    tried hundreds of fixes…
    …tried Bethesda Support
    …Nothing works! every other game i have plays great on highest graphics (Crysis,FEAR,Dragon Age,Oblivion,The witcher,STALKER)

    I even remember Bethesda stating when the game was released “if Oblivion runs on your computer, so will Fallout 3″….WRONG!

    I have tried so many fixes, and nothing will let me play the game for long enough to get into it before i have to RESTART my computer due to Blue Screen…only “fix” i found was set affinity to 1 cpu in case of dual cores like mine, then it ussualy just Crashes To Desktop, instead Of BSOD. (however, not always).
    this is very dissapoointing that it happens to 90% of the people who BOUGHT the game, poor testing period and rushed due dates strike again…please dont release NEW VEGAS if i is any near as Buggy as this one.

  137. I like this game and have expierenced problems with crashing. Also, when I downloaded the GOTY edition I had a similiar problem with my pc not wanting to read disc two. So I went into my pc’s disc drive and it was being read but my pc wasn’t sending me a message that it was reading it. (Very strange.) I ran setup exec as admininstrator and it took a good 10-15 minutes for my pc to start downloading the dlc content. Okay, “All is fine.” I thought. Nope. After starting my game and escaping the vault I found that I only had operation Anchorage and The Pitt. So I exited the program and restarted it. On the screen that lets you choose to continue, start new,etc… I clicked on options and looked at the peramteres. I don’t know why but I messed around with one called Antialiasing. It was set at 4 but I set it for zero and it said something about, “Best performance” so I set it at 0 and my game runs much better. (Still crashes from time to time but doesn’t run as choppy as it used to.) The next thing I did was go into my data files (Just below options on the game screen) and I saw the dlc content (Titles of each mission) but only two of the boxes in front of each one was checkmarked. Operation Anchorage and The Pitt so I clicked on the boxes that weren’t checkedmarked then started the game. After starting it the dlc content Point Lookout and Mothership Zeta was available but I haven’t come across anything that activates Broken Steel in the game at this point in time. I don’t know how that quest is started just yet. If anyone knows would y’all please send me a reply I would apperciate it very much! Thankyou in advance!
    I really get a kick out of this game! But it does suffer from some problems. I’m not all that computer savvy in the first place but I like to solve problems and this has been a challenge! I wish Bethesda would have done more extensive product testing before releasing it to the public for sale. Still, I think the game rocks! As for the new Fallout game coming out (New Vegas), Bethesda, if you are listening to any of us please take more time to ensure a better product. You have (in my opinion) something that is already great but with just a little more effort via developement testing and taking care of nasty bugs that glitch/crash the game, you could have something even greater!
    Well, I can tell by the snores I am hearing that I have put most of you to sleep. Damn I’m good. Okay, everybody wake up! There’s Nuka Cola and Radroach refreshments waiting in the back of the room. Fawkes and Uncle Leo worked mighty hard to prepare this for us. And would whoever that is waving the fatman around at the Mr. Gutsy please put it away because I can already hear Mr. Handy complaining. LOL! Take care y’all!

    • As far as I know Broken Steel just allows you to reach level 30 instead of 20, as well it lets you continue to play after the main quest is finished.(which rocks!) And I think it gives you more acheivements and perks? A couple days ago I installed win7, since then my game has not crashed once! even after playing for hours and hours, also if you turn off auto save features in the settings, that should stop alot of crashing!! did for me even b4 win7. also I downloaded the 1.7 fix from Bethsedas page. as well as the games for win live downloadable fix. I play the game with ultra high quality with no glitchs at all! apparently alot of desktop crashes are due to auto save as well as audio files, if turning off auto save does notta for you ,try the audio files.

  138. @JayR
    Thanks for the shout JayR! I have all autosave functions set for on right now but I will disable them next time I boot up FO3. Also I’ll check out the audio file like you suggest if it still crashes after turning off the autosave features.
    Ahhh, life after starting up the water purifier. My trigger finger is itchin already!!! LOL! Again, thankyou for the shout and have a great day!

  139. @JayR
    Just wanted to let you know that turning off the auto save functions worked like a charm! I’ve played it for over 4 hours and it didn’t crash once!
    Thankyou for the awesome suggestion!!!

  140. hey so i have fallout 3 and i got the four expansions (all but mothership zeta) and i got to the last level on the main quest and the purifiers doors wouldnt close or open i was stuck. so i read this helpful tid bit about the cache AND IT WORKED!!!!. but when i go to start up my game it says loading extra content then when i go to my last save game it says there is content that my character has that is not there anymore and when i load the game my incinerator, enclave hellfire armor, double barrel shotgun everything that comes with the add ons even the missions isnt there anymore. now i thought if i finished the level it might kick in……i saw the final video then the credits ran and thats it!!!! nothin . please help me i cleared the cache on the hard drive and the main memory any info would help thanks

    • Don’t know if this will help but in case you didnt know or havent tried this, on the last main quest you must activate the controlls outside the purifier doors and decide to place the modified “fev”(or whatever its called) into the machine or not to.. end . As for your content not being there check on the settings and go into additional content ( not sure the exact name of menu ) but i thinks its through options on the main menu(first one) there somewhere anyway.. make sure to check all the boxes for your expansions you may have turned them off when you did the cache thing, hope it helps ya!

    • I believe JayR is telling you to access the data files on the beginning screen of the game where you can start new or continue. I did this and discovered that the missing dlc content was not checkmarked. Check mark mothership zeta if it’s not checkmarked and you should get a message about an eerie transmission being broadcast across the wasteland once you start playing the game. Trust JayR, Thrasher. He helped me greatly! I hope he’s able to help you as much as he helped me.

    • Thankyou John for clarifying for me, I have been quite doped up on meds the past few days and so my typing/communication skills have suffered somewhat.Just havent been able to find the correct words and or phrases of late :P Hope we have helped you Thrasher, another year or so and all of us will be doing this again on Fallout 4 ! ps. Fallout Vegas is not a Bethseda game! Bethseda is only publishing it with plans to release “4″ next year. Alot of ppl think vegas is fallout 4 so I wanted to clarify!

  141. @JayR
    You are welcome! Sorry to hear that you aren’t feeling very well JayR. I wish you a speedy and full recovery. Thankyou for telling me about fallout vegas and fallout 4! I can’t wait!!! It’s gonna ROCK! “Mr. Handy, stop cleaning my fatman and super sledge collection and bring us drinks! Nuka cola and whiskey for everybody! Would anyone care for a wild punga fruit along with their salisberry steak???”

    • lmao John, I’ll pass on the Punga…it makes me fart too much..and the last time I ate Salisberry steak I found a radroach in it :S but I will take sum o that whiskey! lol! btw have you found the dismemberer?

  142. @JayR
    Them Radroaches know good food when they find it! LOL! Nope, I haven’t found the dismemberer yet. I finally started Mothership Zeta a couple of nights ago and let me tell ya, that is one glitchy mission. The program crashed on me a few times but it wasn’t bad. The real bummer was when I was near the end and the transporters stopped working. I googled what would cause this and saw that it was a fatal glitch in the programming. Fatal indeed because I need to restart that whole quest again. Those poor aliens… You might want to pass them the whiskey before I tear through them lil green buggers again. It might ease their pain a lil bit. Wait a minute I’m getting a call… What a stroke of luck JayR! That was Eulogy Jones and he said if I could get those Ornery rascals back to paradise falls he’d give me 300 caps per alien. I used my speech skill and talked him into 500! Mr. Handy get my slave collars. JayR wanna join for 250 caps per every captive? Mr. Gutsy call up the Vertibird pilot we need to pick up JayR so he can fly the spaceship to Paradise Falls after we take it over!

    • Really!? While I played mothership I had no problems at all, not glitchy what so ever. I am still having random desktop crashes and the ocasional freeze up but for the most part the game works great for me! The Dismemberer is an axe you find in point lookout.It is inside a cliff face around the eastern coast roughly in the middle, kinda hidden but there should be a marker to guide ya. I havent used the axe much but the few times I have was impressive! Also found a micrwave emmiter in point lookout, kinda kool but only works well on certain enimies. Been all through the pitt and havent found notta worth while. My fav weapon is prob the heavy incinerator or the modified fatman but it is hard to find enough mini nukes to use it much :P If ya know of any kool hidden weapons I would love to hear about em and where ya found em !! peace bro and may your Nuka cola be rad free lol

  143. @JayR
    I think I know why Mothership Zeta was crashing on me now JayR. When I started that quest it changed my save settings so it was saving on all three options. I turned them all off and viola! No more crashes. As for the fatal glitch that stops the teleporters from working… I went and found the Samuri sword first thing then went through the rest of the quest and didn’t expierence the glitch again. As for the sword, I gave it back to the Samurai and told him to do something useful. So he took off after I headed out to bruise and abuse some more aliens! LOL! Well, his disapearing wasn’t all that useful… But he did take care of some light work for me! LMAO!
    I haven’t really come across any awesome weapons if I do I’ll let you know JayR. Thankyou for the heads up on what to look for in point lookout. I haven’t had much time for FO3 lately because the trucking company I went to work for keeps me very busy. Speaking of that I better log off and get some sleep 2am is gonna be here early tommorrow.

  144. Hey guys. just gonna ask on how to fix this bloody crash problem. Happens on getting the radar dish for GNR. The game always crashes when I get near the room with the radar dish. please assist. thanks

    specs:
    Windows 7 ATI edition
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4330
    4GB RAM

    PS. I’m a tota pc newb…sorta

  145. Vertigo,
    Try turning off your autosave features.
    Also, on your game options after booting the game up go to options and crank your antialising (something like that down to zero. There is something else above it (I can’t remember, Sorry!) and turn that down to zero. After I did that and turning off my autosave features the game rarely crashes on me. Also, if JayR sends you a reply to your post pay special attention to what he has to say because he has helped me greatly.
    I hope that between he and I that we are able to help you be able to remain combing the wastes and swilling Nuka-Cola!
    This is John at GNR saying that periodic weapons maintenance is a must.
    Take care and have a great one!

  146. Freezing problems with fallout plz help.
    Tried the core change and turned off the autosaves but it still crashes every 2 minutes.Using windows 7

    • If I were you I would restore all defaults back to normal, make sure you have installed the newest patch from “games for windows live” ver 1.7 i think, I am also using win7 and have nearly no problems anymore, after you restore your defaults then turn off auto save feature. Also delete any auto saves from your load list this can help too. Another thing I try to stay away from is “fast traveling ” from Megaton and other such places ..tends to crash once in a while when you do so. Other than that make sure all notifications are off because if you get a pop up such as an update for microsoft or an anti virus notification ie: Avast(your virus database has been updated) theses will cause your game to crash to your desktop and usually you cannot re-open the game.
      good luck man!!

  147. While this wipe all the information on my games? While I have to start from scratch? Cuz I really don’t want to do that.

  148. Justin,
    I believe JayR meant for you to delete any “Autosaves” not all of your saved FO3 info. So before trying what he’s suggested go and “Intentionally” save the game and make a copy of your save then try what JayR is suggesting.
    I wish I had more info for you but that is all I can come up with at the moment.
    Uncle Leo and Fawkes going on a date you say? Better get Star Paladin to chapperone that one!

  149. I’ve spent just about an hour on this webpage and so far none of this had any held for me. The 360 version i have gets stuck on the mission “The Waters Of Life”. I’m fine during the conversation between the enclave and your father, but once i leave the room it freezes. I’ve tried Maintenance, which got me one more rotation on that load clock thing, but i still got a freeze. I feel Ive gone to far in the game for me to just forget about it.

    • I ‘ve heard the 360 version has many problems as well though none near so many as the Windows version, all the above posts are related to the pc version which is prob why nothing has helped you. Though I heard the same “auto save – off ” will work with the 360 too. Really though I have no Idea as far as the 360 goes? Maybe try and delete the auto saves b4 you enter the failed load screen .

  150. Hey JayR, friend me on fb if you want. Type in John Hale and I work for Hill Bros trucking.
    As for the 360 problem David is having, have you tried to debug your 360? I don’t know exactly how to do it but I was able to google it. If you haven’t tried that then I would give it shot and maybe doing that will resolve the problem you are having with the game freezing.
    Shouldn’t you be banging rocks together local? -Brotherhood Outcast.
    We have a bleeder? -Raider
    Periodic weapons maintenaince is a must!

    John

  151. i have an xbox 360 and my game freezes and the screen turns blue WTF!

  152. This game is crap dont buy it

    no fix , problem no solved.

    • Hey jesus, what is yer problem with your game? I’ve had Fallout3 goty working on vista 32 prem, 64prem, win7 32 and 64. worked for each OS. as well as Xbox. I’d like to help ya fix the problem if I can, this is a great game, even after playing it through more than a few times I can still enjoy it.
      Has anyone played “New Vegas” yet? If so, how is it?

  153. What video card do u have?
    Have you installed the latest patch from “games for win live”?
    replaced the “sometimes” bad dll file?
    is your copy burned or mounted? or the real disc?
    turned “autosave” off?
    This game can be a real “b@tch ” to get to work , answer those questions above and I will try my best to help ya!

  154. Hi ive read through most of the tips here and fallout still wont work. ive tried windowing it, turning off autosaves and putting everything on default and the game still locks up after about 10-15 minutes playing. im running it on windows 7 and i have nvidia geforce gt 320m

  155. I’v allways run the game on Vista and it worked perfectly. When word of New Vegas came out I bought the game of the year edition in order to catch up again. This is when troubles began. I lost my savegames (which, in all fairness, I hadn’t used for 1,5 years) and the game kept crashing. Just now I followed up on a piece of advice given 2 years ago, it worked wonders and I don’t need patches. Note that it works for me on Vista.

    “So I have also found out that for those using Windows XP toying a bit with the visual settings helped a lot and some reported that the game no longer crashed. They have achieved this by running the on 1024×768 with antialiasing and anisotropic filtering off and the view distance (Advanced tab) all set one level lower than the original setting.”

    I did not disable antialiasing and anisotropic filtering, just kicked them back a notch or 2 as well. Now it still looks pretty good and it plays great yet again.

  156. So I’ve installed played and finished the new Fallout New Vegas, few glitches and crashes a few times but overall worked better than Fallout 3. Installed easily no tweaking involved(unlike Fallout3) I like the whole make your own ammo and weapon mods etc… but was disappointed with the main story quests. I was somewhat confused about what I was doing and b4 I knew it the game was over. Also once main story is completed thats it! just like Fallout 3 b4 the expansion. I hope they make an expansion similar for New Vegas soon! I am playing through the game again….taking much more time to explore …and understand, and I am very happy with the game! I recomend New Vegas to anyone who enjoyed Fallout 3 ! Just take yer time and do alot of side quests….I finished the game on med difficulty with wild wasteland option on, at level 16. It took roughly 5-6 hours total gameplay. (thats with a few side quests)

  157. Bought fallout 3 from local games boutique a week and 1 day agoinstalled it lots of times but the window keeps suddenly shutting down and a message from windows comes “fallout 3 has stopped working”

    System Specs
    ————-
    Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon 4500 Series
    Processor: Pentium Dual Core T4300 2.10ghz
    RAM: 4.00gb
    OS: 32 bit Vista Home Premium
    Computer: Toshiba Sattelite L500
    System Score: 5.0
    Country: Australia (if that’s relevant)

  158. Hey ,I had the same problem. First what version of Fallout do you have? If it is the Game Of The Year edition it comes with expansions. You may need to go into the menu option and look to see if the expansions are checked or not, secondly you may need to do an update on the “Games for windows live” website. Third if you have an anti virus program set it to silent gaming mode, desk-top pop-ups will cause this game to crash to the desktop. Also when you get the game working, disable the auto save feature and remember to save often. because even when this game works well it still can crash . another thing to try is “open as administrator” Is your vid card dedicated or intergrated? you may not be able to play this game with an intergrated card…I’m not really sure? All else fails bro, read through the post on here , there are tons of ideas and techniques to try. best of luck man!

  159. Get an Alienware u get that the game runs like a charm

  160. Hi guys. Yesterday i resolve the problem with the freezing. Everyone on windows who have installed k-lite codec, only have to uninstall them and also you have to play the game in windowed mode, not fullscreen.

  161. The reason so many comp guys out there tell you to disable the page file is purely for the sake of preventing hard disk thrashing due to constant write/re-writing to the hard drive. It is not about increasing the speed of your computer in fact you are right about the fact that it adds memory. However nowadays most people have plenty of RAM available to them and the damage page files can do to the hard drive outweigh the benefits as it is much slower than any RAM you would find out there for cheap today.

  162. these sound like delusional at random fixes to an internal problem that are mostly random sounding

    • Well, not everything is going to be uniform in life. Things have to be random to throw you off and keep you on your toes. I’ve learned a bit about pc gaming since I started playing fallout 3. You should look up the word Delusional in the dictionary. In short it means denying and or lying. I’m not delusional. I know I’m playing the game after having to solve some issues with it. I hope you have your issue resolved by now and are happily shooting up super mutants in the wasteland now.
      America will never fall to communist invasion. -Liberty Prime
      I keep the locals supplied with poon and booze. -Moriarty
      Don’t hit me! -Gob

  163. when i start up fallout it works fine i don’t have the cd tho so i mounted it with daemon tools same as oblivion but it runs fine when i have over the required specs for fallout 3 but when i hit new game it loads half way and then says its stopped working i have done all of the above disables speakers still not working re enables them but set everything to defualt any help

    ?

  164. Hey Scutshake, I would try right clicking on the icon for fallout3 and choose run as admin. also you can try testing the compatabilty you may need to run the game in xp mode. Also disable the auto save feature, and make sure you have updated “games for windows live” to at least version 1.7 you can find it on the bethseda website. good luck ! also if youve downloaded the game there should be a no-cd crack in the iso somewhere possibly in the skidrow” folder if you got that version.

  165. Playing on xbox360 and whenever I try to load within about a half mile radius of rivet city game crashes. Dont have disc version bought it at marketplace and have tried redownloading it

  166. OH, LOOK AT THIS!

    I downloaded fo3 and mounted it..
    installs and launchs ok.
    But when i start the new game, crashes to desktop and stop working. and.. I downloaded an d3d9.dll and place it on main folder. OK! now DOESNT CRASHES TO DESKTOP ANYMORE!!! the movie and the music of seventies starts…. oooh happiness!! \OOO/

    OOOOH IS SO CUUUUTE! ME (BABY) BORNS!!!! AND MEDIC TELLS MY NAME AND MY FUTURE FACE!!! ooooooh *–*
    is so cuuuuute UNTILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL…… the game freezes ….
    and freeze again… and again.. and again.. AAAAAAAH
    THE CUTE BABY BECAME A UGLY DRAGON!! DAMNIT!!!! :\

    well.. today is… JULY/25/2011… and i’m telling this for you;.. this topic has 3 YEARS!!!

    i think has a solution here, no??? please guys, im really LAZY to read all this topic, i confess i read superficially because im not american and my english is basic..

    pleasee help this cute little baby boy (the medic says that!) who wants to SAVE THE WORLD!!!

    i really appreciate the attention!

  167. I FORGET TO SAY MY SPEC:

    LAPTOP HP G42-214BR

    Intel Core i3-350M
    2.26GHz 3GB
    320GB
    VIDEO: INTEL HD GRAPHICS

    PS: runs FALLOUT NV PERFECTLY!

  168. You might need to lower your game video/visual (Graphic) performance level. It will be under options on the games main screen. I lowered my resolution to 640×480, I turned the Antialiasing off for best performance and turned the anisotropic filtering off for best performance. Also, you might need to go to the fallout website and download the patches from Bethesda to help with the crashes. Another thing that will help with the crashes (That is once we get you up and roaming the capitol wasteland) is that you will want to turn off the “save on rest, wait and travel” option. This has caused a lot of crashing to desktop. I hope this helps you Felepenho. If not message back.
    Thanks for listening wastelanders! -3dog
    Somebody call the doctor we got a bleeder! -Raider

  169. Hi John, and everybody!

    I FINALLY FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK THIS GAME ON MY PC!

    as I said.. my specs:

    LAPTOP HP G42-214BR
    WINDOWS 7 32BIT
    Intel Core i3-350M
    2.26GHz 3GB
    320GB
    VIDEO: INTEL HD GRAPHICS.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzU749nRuaY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzU749nRuaY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzU749nRuaY

    the solution is here!
    do it carefully!!! i dont know about another specs…
    but here in my humble laptop WORKS!
    REALLY GREAT!

    PS: idk.. but i think i know what the majority (or not) people are doing wrong.. i think people are CHANGING (bUseThreaded=1 iNumHWThreads=2) IN THE FALLOUT.INI on the MAIN FOLDER! BUT IS NOT! DONT TOUCH THIS FILE. you need to go in the DOCUMENTS/MY GAMES/FALLOUT 3 and change THERE the fallout.ini …

    i was watching this video.. and… i did it ALL RIGHT!!!!!!
    but i look an thing and wonder.. HEY! HAVE 2 FILES: FALLOUT.INI (or fallout_default.ini) in the MAIN FOLDER, and… FALLOUT.INI in the documents/my games/fallout 3… soooo… CHANGE IN THIS LAST OKK??!!!
    i did it and WORKED!
    UNTIL NOW…. DOESNT CRASH OR FREEZE… LETS SEE IN THE FINAL..
    thats it

    tnx

  170. HP G72 Notebook PC
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
    Max CPU Speed 2400 MHz
    Video Adapter Intel(R) HD Graphics
    Video Processor Intel(R) HD Graphics (Core i3)
    PCI ID 0×8086 / 0×0046 (Intel Corporation / Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller)
    Memory 1722 MBytes

    I was having freeze issues during the game while it transitioned into the intro of the baby being delivered. I could still hear audio but it was looping and the game became unresponsive, requiring me to end task on the application and start over.

    I finally tried the suggestion from Nick way back in May 2010 of adding a couple lines to the fallout.ini.

    bUseThreadedAI=1
    iNumHWThreads=2

    The first line was already present but it was set to 0. I had to add the second, as it was not there.

    Fallout detected my video settings as widescreen and I also changed that to standard 800×600.

    I am now able to play and no crashes so far, though I am not yet out of the vault. Hope my luck holds out.

    Thanks to everyone who diligently pursued fixes to all these bugs.

  171. Hello, I log on to your blogs regularly. Your writing style is
    witty, keep doing what you’re doing!

  172. This did not work wether i updated or not, my saved games still never load. it goes to the please wait screen and stays like that and never goes back then blacks out and says the disc is unreadable for xbox 360

  173. I’m not sure why but this website is loading incredibly
    slow for me. Is anyone else having this issue or is it a issue on my end?
    I’ll check back later and see if the problem still exists.

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